jim.......you're talking bout a holeshot plate???? do you mean the hydrofoil fin that goes on the cavitation plate??? if so, how much did this actually help coming out the hole??? and, how much did it decrease the bow lift when doing so??? my bow is looking at the moon when it comes out the hole !!! lololol....it seems to do ok coming out of the hole considering what all i've heard about the weight in the stern, etc. but if a hydrofoil helps that much i've been thinking of adding 1 myself. and, oh yeah, the jackplate comment you made.....i need to know about mine too. i don't know very little bout them plates. but mine is the manual factory one, 6 inch. it is set in the top hole of the plate(2 holes) so it cud go up 1 more hole. and on the motor, there are 5 holes, mine is set in the second one down from the top. so, it would go on up another 3 holes too. i was thinking that mine maybe should be up 1 more hole, but not sure though. tell me how yours is set if you say it's been done right ok, i'd appreciate it alot......thnxxx......paul........and, oh yeah, do the hydrofoils really cut out the waves when stopping?? lolol.....when i first got the boat i just pulled it down like the ole ranger with the straight up and down back.....lolol.....lil to my surprise several times the water came all the wayyy up on the deck almost to the back of the seat i was sitting in while driving...lol.....but, i've larned that when she sits down, right b4 it rolls up, just give it a lil gas til the waves settle and it doesn't roll up any now. but the ranger you cud just pull it down very suddenly and the way the back of it is made, the water couldn't come over, big big difference in these 2 boats i'll say that !!!! nothing at all can be compared, all is different. but yeah let me know bout the jplate and the hydrofoil ok.