Well after much research last night I determined that reloading would just not be feasible for me. Equipment I want (progressive press), dies, etc would cost a grand (for the Dillon Press XL650 and assorted stuff I'd want with it) and that's before I buy bullets, primers, powder etc. I can buy bulk 223 for $259 per thousand, 9mm for $239 per thousand, and 45acp for $359 per thousand. So a lot of ammo for the price of a press. I figure I probably wouldn't shoot more than couple thousand at most, rest I'd hoard for when SHTF time. I ruled out the single press, as that's just too time consuming and would give my arms a workout I don't need although the idea of shooting my own stuff intrigues me and definitely would be a fun hobby. Sure is a shame though there's no decent 200-600 yd ranges in my area though. I use to train/certify folks at indoor range in Nashville years ago but much prefer outdoor ranges. I realize most folks like being comfy when shooting, but I prefer outdoor unless you're in the business of routing out bad guys in buildings. Besides the Stones River range in Antioch run by the State, there's a private range south of Franklin and one in Manchester TN (hours drive) so leaning towards the private range south of Franklin - yearly fee of $90 and my wife could shoot for free if I'm there with her. State one wants 101 bucks a year per person or $5.50 for 2 hours per person and its only open 3 days a week, so again the Franklin wins (closed Tues and Thursday and the 1st weekend of every month). So I like the idea of going say on Wed when others are working. After the heart surgery is over with, I might reconsider next year - depending on how much I shoot, but I will be saving all my brass. I bought a brass catcher to put on the AR. Then I'm gonna get a magnetic sweeper to help police the brass we shoot. (from auto pistols). Does anyone here reload 410 shorshells??